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Headword: *au)th\ ka/minos, au)to\s ei(/lkuse kapno\s h)\ troxo/s
Adler number: alpha,4472
Translated headword: the oven itself, the smoke itself or the wheel dragged on
Vetting Status: high
Translation:
[sc. A proverbial saying] in reference to those doing the same or similar things.
Greek Original:
*au)th\ ka/minos, au)to\s ei(/lkuse kapno\s h)\ troxo/s: e)pi\ tw=n o(/moia kai\ paraplh/sia diaprattome/nwn.
Notes:
Baffling, as transmitted (and Adler indicates no textual problems.)
The first element does, of itself, constitute a proverbial saying: so Photius, explicitly, with a gloss very similar to the present one; also Hesychius, who has such a gloss plus the extra comment that 'the metaphor [comes] from the potter's wheel'. So the Suda's 'wheel' is presumably a potter's wheel, but even if so, the second element of the present headword phrase (unparalleled elsewhere) is opaque.
LSJ s.v. ka/minos (kappa 284) cites some proverbs involving ovens, but not this one.
Keywords: daily life; food; imagery; proverbs; trade and manufacture
Translated by: William Hutton on 29 March 2002@23:07:40.
Vetted by:
David Whitehead (added note; cosmetics) on 28 August 2002@04:33:40.
David Whitehead (augmented note and keywords) on 23 March 2006@07:47:42.
David Whitehead (expanded note; another keyword) on 2 May 2012@09:19:58.
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