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Headword: *)alla\ ga/r
Adler number: alpha,1052
Translated headword: but for all that
Vetting Status: high
Translation:
Instead of "but". Eupolis [sc. uses the idiom].[1]
"But for all that, despondent men never yet set up a trophy."[2] The proverb [is used] in reference to those who because of despondency are unable to accomplish anything noble.
Greek Original:
*)alla\ ga/r: a)nti\ tou= de/. *eu)/polis. *)alla\ ga\r a)qumou=ntes a)/ndres ou)/ pote tro/paion e)/sthsan: h( paroimi/a e)pi\ tw=n di' a)qumi/an mhde\n gennai=on pra/ttein duname/nwn.
Notes:
[1] Eupolis fr. 68 Kock, now 77 K.-A. See Denniston 107.
[2] Proverb used by [Plato], Critias 108C (see web address 1 below); see generally Tosi (cited under alpha 378) no.856. On trophies cf. tau 1049 and see generally W.K. Pritchett, The Greek State at War vol.2 (Berkeley & Los Angeles 1974) chap.13, "The Battlefield Trophy".
Reference:
J.D. Denniston, The Greek Particles, ed. 2, Oxford 1966
Associated internet address:
Web address 1
Keywords: comedy; definition; dialects, grammar, and etymology; ethics; military affairs; philosophy; poetry; proverbs
Translated by: Catharine Roth on 16 February 2001@22:17:19.
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David Whitehead (augmented note; added keyword; cosmetics) on 18 February 2001@11:35:34.
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